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1 # 在下勞斯基
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2 # 一沉夢昂志一
馬丁老爺子寫布蘭一定是有伏筆的,第一季到最終季卻屁大點的用沒體現出來,就知道了囧雪的身世還被山姆查課本找到了。還引誘了一波夜王。估計小說得寫點什麼
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3 # 不頹的滷蛋
估計大概的人物結局和故事走向就是這樣了,可能就是一些細節上的變化,畢竟編劇也是按照馬丁老爺子的意思編下去的。但是過程和故事應該更飽滿,人物性格塑造更合理更可信,比如龍媽最後就是黑化了,現在是感覺好突然,書裡可能就是會讓你覺得她不黑化都不對了。就像嗶站有位up主說的,編劇強調的是故事表現,小說作者強調的是故事合理。雖然我是由劇到書的,但是這樣一來看書的時候腦袋裡浮現出劇中人物的臉和形象,反而覺得看書確實很過癮了。不過書裡的內容、人物和故事線更多,更飽滿,有時候確實需要想好久才明白是誰對誰,誰家對誰家…
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4 # kkzhuang89
馬丁老爺爺已經說了書本的結局與電視劇出入不大。觀眾存在巨大的落差感,是因為過高的期待了經費和編輯的能力。為啥大家不在早就知道第八季只有六集時候說呢?實際上,這已經是能呈現出來的較好的結局了。
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5 # 真葉舞清風
估計馬丁自己也不好寫了,畢竟前期伏筆,坑太多,想完美解決很困難。
我預測冰與火之歌小說有可能不會有結局,就此爛尾。其實這樣也好,給讀者想象空間,自己認為是什麼結局就是什麼結局。
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6 # 南山採芹人
別猜了,馬丁今天在自己的部落格上發表了長文,說原著和電視劇從第一季開始就註定完全不同,全因為蝴蝶效應。
HBO《權力的遊戲》美劇大結局播出已經一天了,劇迷們對2DB編劇寫的皆大歡喜大結尾非常不滿意,甚至還在美國開始請願重拍第八季。
作為《冰與火之歌》原著作者喬治·R·馬丁也被媒體圍了個水洩不通,終於在部落格上寫了很長的筆記,談到他即將出版的書和對權遊大結局的看法。
祭出馬丁在他部落格上寫的原文(寫於5月20日 晚上8點)
標題: 劇終
昨晚,最終季。拍了八季之後,HBO《權力的遊戲》終於告一段落了。
這就是故事的開始。而它於昨晚謝幕。
我從未預想到,那個在棕櫚泉的下午,我踏上了改變人生軌跡的旅程。在這部劇之前,我也曾把書和故事的版權賣去製作電視劇或電影。沒人知道這部劇會如此不同,它不僅拍得很好,還成為HBO史上最成功的電視劇,贏得了艾美獎,甚至成為世界風靡流行的劇集,讓一群有天分但默默無聞的演員一躍成為名人或明星。我更沒想到我也變成了名人。坦白說,我至今還不知道這是怎麼回事兒。
這是一次瘋狂的旅程,至少可以這麼說。
我會繼續,繼續~正如我在腦海裡也在撰寫這篇文章一樣,但我有太多話想說。“離別是如此甜蜜的悲傷”,巴德寫道。(脂評:馬丁大爺寫這句話援引《巴氏常用妙語詞典》(Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations),但原文是源自莎士比亞的《羅密歐與朱麗葉》)。在接下來的幾周或幾個月裡,我可能會寫幾段在製作劇集時我最喜歡的時刻。當我懷舊的時候,可能不時地更新~但現在有太多的回憶,我沒時間一一整理腦海裡的思緒。
讓我再多說一句——昨晚是一個結束,但也是全新的開始。沒人在這之後就退休回家不幹了。大衛和丹正在繼續進行《星球大戰》和其他的專案,亞馬遜贊助布萊恩·考格曼,讓他能獨立開發新的節目,同時還開始“托爾金專案”(脂評:托爾金是《魔戒》《霍位元人》原著作家,估計布萊恩·考格曼在開展托爾金其他作品的改編?)演技傑出的演員們散落到各處,但之後你們會在各種電視劇和電影再次看到他們。我們的導演一如既往的忙碌。我想你們在劇集裡也沒有看到維斯特洛大陸最後的結局,但我覺得這完全取決於後面的節目怎麼拍。
我呢?我還在這裡,依然很忙。作為一名製片人,我在HBO做了五檔節目(有些節目和維斯特洛大陸毫無關係),2部在Hulu(脂評:Hulu是NBC環球和新聞集團以及迪士尼合資成立的一家網路影片網站,類似於中國愛奇藝,Hulu去年正式宣佈將馬丁的科幻系列《百變王牌》(Wild Cards)打造成電視劇),1部在“歷史頻道”(脂評:《歷史頻道》是美國一個專門播放歷史相關紀錄片的電影片道)。我參與了很多專題專案,有些基於我自己寫的故事和書,有些是由其他人創作的資料。我想製作一些短片,或者改編經典故事,而這些內容是由我們魔幻流派裡最聰明、最古怪、最原始的作家創作的,就像我曾經在一個日本影片節目裡說過的。還有“喵喵狼:起源故事”(Meow Wolf)(脂評:《喵喵狼:起源故事》是馬丁拍攝的一個藝術短片,看馬丁大叔的行程這麼緊,怪不得《冰與火之歌》一拖再拖)
我還在寫。凜冬將至,我在書中很久以前寫過~的確如此。我知道《凜冬的風》(THE WINDS OF WINTER)拖得太久了,但它遲早會完成的。我無法告知何時能寫完,之前我試過逼著自己(趕緊寫),但結果我只想燒死你們然後自盡~(脂評:意思是你們別催了,再催就burn you all。下一部十年後再出也別催我)但這一部終究會完結的,然後迎來下一部《春天的夢想》(A DREAM OF SPRING)(脂評:意思是原著只有2卷,對應著名字是異鬼之戰和君臨之戰)
原著怎麼結局呢?我聽到所有人都在問。和電視劇一樣的結尾嗎?還是不同?
好吧。是,不是。是,不是。是,不是。是。(脂評:這句話寫得就像是沉浸於愛情中的少女掰著玫瑰花,愛我,不愛我,愛我,不愛我~最後選了“是””)???
你要清楚,書本身和電視劇在媒介上就天然不同。在2DB拍攝的最終季裡只有6集。而我預估完成最後兩卷書起碼需要寫3000頁的手稿~如果甚至需要更多的章節和場景,我還會繼續增加頁數。蝴蝶效應還會繼續發揮作用,只要關注我的部落格的粉絲都知道,我從第一季開始就一直在提“蝴蝶效應”(脂評:馬丁很早就提過“蝴蝶效應”,意思是以前幾季小小劇情的更改會帶來巨大的改變,他提醒我們書和劇集是2個不同的故事)。有些人物根本沒上過銀幕,有一些在劇中已經死去,但仍然活在書中。因此,原著的讀者還會繼續看到珍妮·普爾、石心夫人、penny和剃頂大人、Arianne Martelte、Darkstar、Vicquion Greyjoy、加蘭爵士(Ser Garlan)、伊耿六世(Aegon VI)。是的,還會有獨角獸~其中一種型別
書或者電視劇,哪一個會成為“真正”的大結局?這是個愚蠢的問題,斯嘉麗·奧哈拉有多少個孩子?(脂評:在原著裡她有3個孩子,但在劇集裡一個都沒有,這也是馬丁之前舉例說明蝴蝶效應)
Title: The End
The last night, the last show. After eight epic seasons, HBO’s GAME OF THRONES series has come to an end.
It is hard to believe it is over, if truth be told. The years have gone past in the blink of an eye. Can it really have been more than a decade since my manager Vince Gerardis set up a meeting at the Palm in LA, and I sat down for the first time with David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for a lunch that lasted well past dinner? I asked them if they knew who Jon Snow’s mother was. Fortunately, they did.
That was how it started. It ended last night.
I had no clue, that afternoon at the Palm, that I was about to embark on a journey that would change my life. I had optioned books and stories for television and film before. Some had even been made There was no way to know that this one was going to be different, that this pilot would not only be shot, but would go on to become the most successful show in the history of HBO, win a record number of Emmy Awards, become the most popular (and most pirated) show in the world, and transform a group of talented but largely unknown actors into major celebrities and stars. Even less did I imagine that I would somehow become a celebrity as well… and if truth be told, I’m still not sure how that happened.
It has been a wild ride, to say the least.
I want to thank people, but there are so many. There were forty-two cast members at the season eight premiere in New York City, and that wasn’t even all of them. And the crew, though less visible than the cast, were no less important. We had some amazing people working on this show, as all those Emmys bear witness. David & Dan assembled a championship team. The directors were incredible as well. I should start naming names, but then I’d miss someone, there were so many. But I do need to mention David Benioff, Dan Weiss, Bryan Cogman (the third head of the dragon, as I said in the recent VANITY FAIR piece about him), and of course the great team at HBO, headed by Richard Plepler. Any other network, and GAME OF THRONES would not have been what it became. Most other networks, this series never gets made at all.
I could go on and on… and have, as I’ve been writing this post in my head… but there’s really too much to say. Parting is such sweet sorrow, the Bard wrote. In the weeks and months to come, I may post about some of my favorite moments from the making of this show… now and again, when I am feeling nostalgic… but just now, there are so many memories, and no time to do them all justice.
Let me say this much — last night was an ending, but it was also a beginning. Nobody is retiring any time soon. David and Dan are going on to STAR WARS and other projects beyond that. Amazon scooped up Bryan Cogman, and put him to work on developing shows of his own, as well as helping out on their big Tolkien project. Our brilliant cast has scattered to the four winds, but you’ll be seeing a lot of them in the years to come, in all manner of television shows and movies. Our directors are keeping busy as well. I suspect that you have not seen the last of Westeros on your television sets either, but I guess that all depends on how some of these successor shows turn out.
And me? I’m still here, and I’m still busy. As a producer, I’ve got five shows in development at HBO (some having nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Westeros), two at Hulu, one on the History Channel. I’m involved with a number of feature projects, some based upon my own stories and books, some on material created by others. There are these short films I am hoping to make, adaptations of classic stories by one of the most brilliant, quirky, and original writers our genre has ever produced. I’ve consulted on a video game out of Japan. And then there’s Meow Wolf…
And I’m writing. Winter is coming, I told you, long ago… and so it is. THE WINDS OF WINTER is very late, I know, I know, but it will be done. I won’t say when, I’ve tried that before, only to burn you all and jinx myself… but I will finish it, and then will come A DREAM OF SPRING.
How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?
Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.
I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan, never forget. They had six hours for this final season. I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them. And of course the butterfly effect will be at work as well; those of you who follow this Not A Blog will know that I’ve been talking about that since season one. There are characters who never made it onto the screen at all, and others who died in the show but still live in the books… so if nothing else, the readers will learn what happened to Jeyne Poole, Lady Stoneheart, Penny and her pig, Skahaz Shavepate, Arianne Martell, Darkstar, Victarion Greyjoy, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Aegon VI, and a myriad of other characters both great and small that viewers of the show never had the chance to meet. And yes, there will be unicorns… of a sort…
Book or show, which will be the “real” ending? It’s a silly question. How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have?
How about this? I’ll write it. You read it. Then everyone can make up their own mind, and argue about it on the internet.
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最後一集有點迷,在龍母做出這樣慘絕人寰的行為過後,還能支援她的估計只有無垢者和多斯拉克人了,如果依龍母的性格她不願意放手鐵王座,那麼這就尷尬了,是不是又要打一次王位爭奪戰?